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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.03 15:29:00 -
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Issler, how do you as a proponent of WiS feel about Riverini's proposal for a pantry drop button in the captain's quarters? Also, if this is implemented, would you like to come over for tea?
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.04 18:25:00 -
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With WiS (and Walking in Ships While They're in Stations), would I be able to undock with someone else in my ship? Like, have passengers that aren't exotic dancers or homeless people? As in, actual players? This has interesting gameplay implications, since I could then in theory fly someone with -10 sec into hisec in any ship. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.04 20:01:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti
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Posted - 2012.03.05 20:45:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:With WiS (and Walking in Ships While They're in Stations), would I be able to undock with someone else in my ship? Like, have passengers that aren't exotic dancers or homeless people? As in, actual players? This has interesting gameplay implications, since I could then in theory fly someone with -10 sec into hisec in any ship.
I never did get an answer to this. I think it's a fair question. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.05 21:46:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:With WiS (and Walking in Ships While They're in Stations), would I be able to undock with someone else in my ship? Like, have passengers that aren't exotic dancers or homeless people? As in, actual players? This has interesting gameplay implications, since I could then in theory fly someone with -10 sec into hisec in any ship. I never did get an answer to this. I think it's a fair question. I think passengers in ships is an interesting idea. Issler
So someone tries to take you seriously and engage you as a candidate on this issue, and this is all you have to offer? This is what you'll say to CCP when you're on the CSM and they say, "Hey, we think it might be cool if you could smuggle players around as passengers in ships, what do you think?" Because, as you know, that's what your role will be, and as the primary (and probably only) advocate of WiS, you're the one the CSM would likely turn to for this issue. And what will you give them? That you think it's an interesting idea?
Personally, I don't really care about walking in stations or passengers in ships or riverini's panty dropper button, but I do think that if something is proposed that would alter gameplay significantly (like bypassing security/standings would), a CSM member should be able to formulate an opinion on it or at least run through what some of the implications might be. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.06 14:55:00 -
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Minta Contha wrote: Would you rather that Issler gave you a glib detailed paragraph of her thoughts on this just off the top of her head, without consulting other players, so that when she describes something you disagree with you can scream, "that would never work!" and make her look like she doesn't think things through? It's far more honest of her to admit that it's an interesting idea but she has not yet thought out how it should be implemented just yet. It's not the job of all CSM members to have an exact blueprint in their heads of how every single minute aspect of Eve and all the ideas people come up with should be made to work. Passengers in ships is a very complex issue.
Am I talking to Issler now? Can you let me talk to Issler? Is this Peggy? Vanessa? What happened in the green kitchen?
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.06 20:36:00 -
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Actually this was all just meant to lead to a punch line along the lines of "an in-game way for me to give someone a ride on my rocket" but I'm too bored to continue with this farce. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:23:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:I have cast a vote for Issler Dainze . I will cast another every time this thread falls to page two. Mr Epeen
I'm happy to keep bumping this thread for you, Mystery Peen. Everyone needs to know that a vote for Issler is a vote for Player Out Of Pod.
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.07 17:49:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:sit down and read the nearly 200 pages and you will find many posts on where I think ambulation fits in the future of Eve, while you are reading that notice how many other players agree with me.
So thanks for the random goon snipe/bump.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate You mean the thread where you insult a CCP developer who then posts that she can't believe people would be that hateful? You've gone too far when you are spewing hate at the people working hard to make the game better for everybody. If you're elected to the CSM how are you planning on working with other CCP employees?
Whoa. I was avoiding that thread because I thought it'd be full of Playing Out Of Pod lovers but now I see it delivers on drama. Besides, nobody should be picking on the CCP staff who actually make things. They fight for the players!
Not cool, Issler, not cool.
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.07 18:15:00 -
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Please don't throw me into the briar patch. |
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.08 15:28:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: TBH I really don't hate the goons, I just believe that CCP is a business. They are here to make money. So if you have a minority no matter what percentage in control of the CSM, they can and frankly for the sake of EVE as a whole should be ignored. So my dislike of Goons is based on the fact I really like EVE and to get the numbers growing again after CCP's lovely actions of the past 12 months (even without the Non-Hisec CSM) it really requires most of CCP's resources to be devoted to the majority eg. Hi-sec and Newbie players to save the game (and subsequently with higher profits keeping CCP focused on EVE not other games or spin offs)
So I suppose what I'm saying is DON'T VOTE Non-Hi-sec if you want to be playing this game in a few years time.
I genuinely share your concerns about newbie players (I'm still a newbie, or a returning bittern00b, I guess) but I think you are misdirecting those concerns. Alliances like Goonswarm and TEST are extremely newbie friendly, since they actively recruit players from outside the game, and do so with the long term view that retaining those rifter pilots now means that many more battleship and dreadnought pilots later. Our directors take an active interest in the new player experience because they have to, unlike leaders of alliances with high skillpoint minimums who are just plucking the fruit grown from the labor of many struggling small alliances that do take in new players, only to lose them to ~elite pvp~ alliances in null
Once upon a time, as an experiment, I started out a fresh character and tried to make my way through the new player experience without just setting my home to VFK and podding myself. You know what I found? Eve sucks if you're a new player without an alliance welcoming you and helping you out. I really don't know what makes people want to play it because it is lonely and boring and downright tedious. Sure, you can join things like Eve University but you have to know about them. You can find a corp on the recruitment channel but have you ever sat and read that channel? It's awful, all the people on it are terrible, the corp ads read like they were written by the same people who scribble out of order notes on vending machines, and most of them have SP limits and/or don't accept people on trial accounts. Not a favorable first impression for new players
Also, my ship looked like a dentist's chair. My next ship looked like some other kind of chair. Then there was the one that looked like a big metal nose, and finally I got into a giant flying mailbox. Yay Caldari, I guess
Guess which CSM pushed for rookie ship redesign? The one chaired by ~my ceo~.
Goons aren't ruining this game. A lot of people will say so, but they're either uninformed or they're trying to dodge the fact that it is they who are ruining this game and ruining it badly. The worst things for Eve are ~elite pvp~ alliances and empire isk farming carebears. One tells new players they can have fun when they're all grown up and can fly a titan, and the other tells new players they can have fun when they have enough money (which is never, because you always need more for the next "fun" thing).
And I just realized I typed all this up in Issler's thread which means it was a waste of time but what the hell, here it is anyhow. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.11 02:25:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: Yes I am aware that you have allies and they are not from SA but goons are different due to the fact they are really not part of the EVE culture. I stated that I was concerned about Goons on the CSM as they are not part of the EVE community, and The Mittani backs me up
As The Mittani stated "What makes a pilot in Goonswarm alien compared to the rest of the so-called GÇÿEVE communityGÇÖ? The answer is community itself - external community, independent from Eve Online. As the game has matured, there are now two classes of player, radically different in mindset - the EVE-born and the community-born. "
Hahaha, check out this space nativism. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.11 03:00:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote: Not quite sure what your getting at there. Will admit would be nice if you used an alt that was at least 60 days old or better yet showed who you really were.
Would be nice if you used an alt with more than 4 likes. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.12 01:23:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Goon Socialist-Democratic Workers Party
You say that like it's a bad thing. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.12 14:49:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Yes I will admit I am about the same on other MMO's now I tried other MMO's since playing EVE but they just don't compare. The biggest problem is so few people actually stay. The learning Cliff in this game is a killer to a lot of players, the biggest problem is the number of players who don't see what the game is and just leave defeated.
I don't want some tacky add on for Wis myself, it has the possibility to be so much more.
I'm seriousposting, this is not a troll. People leave because of the cultural reasons you were going on about earlier. Eve culture sucks. Really, it's terrible. Ironically, it is simultaneously elitist and appeals to the lowest common denominator. The most successful newbie oriented groups bring some other culture (any other culture) into this game. WiS won't fix that.
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:49:00 -
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I'm pretty sure the rookie ship redesigns that are in today's release aren't something that really benefit null alliances and ~elite pvp~ types a whole lot. And yes, they were something CSM6 pushed for. Check the minutes.
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.14 12:20:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Remember a Vote for Issler Dainze is a vote for fairness in this Goonsheep tainted election.
tell me more about goonsheep taints
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.17 06:43:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Taiwanistan wrote:wis: a cesspool of all-you-can-eat social /dance o7m8 dressup, unrestrained do ask do tell out and proud at the space bar dollhouse, bunch of dudes emoting each other, all the evolving new and exciting things you've ever wanted. The irony of that statement coming from a member of an alliance of which fully half is basement dwelling neckbeards and butt pirates roleplaying women is not lost on most people. Mr Epeen
congratulations, mystery peen, you just described every alliance
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.20 01:05:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote: This isn't about me, its about the message and the goons and friends never seem to want to talk about that.
Mining has been ignored. More folks mine than any other activity. Isn't it time the miners of Eve got some love from CCP?
If you want to talk about that we can have a conversation.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate
Okay, let's leave "goons and friends" out of this for a moment. Why would a miner vote for you instead of, say, Seleene?
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.20 01:15:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:Issler Dainze wrote: This isn't about me, its about the message and the goons and friends never seem to want to talk about that.
Mining has been ignored. More folks mine than any other activity. Isn't it time the miners of Eve got some love from CCP?
If you want to talk about that we can have a conversation.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate
Okay, let's leave "goons and friends" out of this for a moment. Why would a miner vote for you instead of, say, Seleene? Because a miner might ask why I should vote for a character that made no claim to improve mining if elected to the CSM 7 and has time in previous CSMs to try and improve mining and never seemed to have shown any interest.... Just saying, but that is an excellent question, thanks for making this a more useful debate! By the way, as posted in another thread when the election began, Seleene was one of the previous CSM I'd support for reelection. Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate
Seleene has advocated a full blown industrial expansion in his thread. The current CSM has advocated strongly for a drone mineral nerf. Drone region minerals probably damage the mineral market more than just about anything else. |
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